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	<title>Comments on: BPMN &#8211; BPEL and XPDL Editors</title>
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		<title>By: Debbie Scott</title>
		<link>http://davidkbarker.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/9/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great paper and I liked you 35000 ft view of BPMN

I&#039;m just getting started with learning about BPM -- coming from a more IT side than a business side, I&#039;m finding this fascinating. Am sometimes getting a bit sidetracked by arguments on BPEL vs BPM vs XPDL. I don&#039;t see these as being disjoint from each other</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great paper and I liked you 35000 ft view of BPMN</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just getting started with learning about BPM &#8212; coming from a more IT side than a business side, I&#8217;m finding this fascinating. Am sometimes getting a bit sidetracked by arguments on BPEL vs BPM vs XPDL. I don&#8217;t see these as being disjoint from each other</p>
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		<title>By: Zee's Blog » BPEL and BPMN Links</title>
		<link>http://davidkbarker.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/9/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Zee's Blog » BPEL and BPMN Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidbarker</title>
		<link>http://davidkbarker.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/9/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>davidbarker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Midhun,
I haven&#039;t had a chance to evaluate the latest candidates but I think it really depends on your infrastructure and programming preferences and, of course, the scope and makeup of any SOA projects you are involved with.  I personally really like Intalio but if I were a determined Java shop I would probably go with jBoss and the jBPM editor.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Midhun,<br />
I haven&#8217;t had a chance to evaluate the latest candidates but I think it really depends on your infrastructure and programming preferences and, of course, the scope and makeup of any SOA projects you are involved with.  I personally really like Intalio but if I were a determined Java shop I would probably go with jBoss and the jBPM editor.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Midhun</title>
		<link>http://davidkbarker.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/9/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Midhun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,
Could  you  tell me among the  open source BPM tools available  now  which  one is good and fully functional

Midhun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,<br />
Could  you  tell me among the  open source BPM tools available  now  which  one is good and fully functional</p>
<p>Midhun</p>
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		<title>By: Pinaki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

Thanks for the explanation.We want to facilitate those business excellence that are working with more than one BPM tools.Some tool may have
already one excellent solution and they can try to deploy the same framework in a second tool with less effort on modifying the Process Control Flow rather to work only on the piece of Data Metrics or Data related instances.In order to add this dimension in Work flow model,we have to search some smart technique to deal all creation and deployment with tool independent XPDL formatted files.May I have any concept so far experimented on this from any one please?

Pinaki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Thanks for the explanation.We want to facilitate those business excellence that are working with more than one BPM tools.Some tool may have<br />
already one excellent solution and they can try to deploy the same framework in a second tool with less effort on modifying the Process Control Flow rather to work only on the piece of Data Metrics or Data related instances.In order to add this dimension in Work flow model,we have to search some smart technique to deal all creation and deployment with tool independent XPDL formatted files.May I have any concept so far experimented on this from any one please?</p>
<p>Pinaki</p>
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		<title>By: davidbarker</title>
		<link>http://davidkbarker.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/9/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>davidbarker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pinaki,
This is a good discussion topic.  I&#039;ll leave this up here for someone else to comment on because I don&#039;t have a lot of experience mixing workflow engines.  I think that most of the vendor specific workflow solutions, even if they call their engines XPDL compatible, are going to throw in enough customizations that it would give you fits trying to write cross-platform XPDL that will run flawlessly on them. 

db</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pinaki,<br />
This is a good discussion topic.  I&#8217;ll leave this up here for someone else to comment on because I don&#8217;t have a lot of experience mixing workflow engines.  I think that most of the vendor specific workflow solutions, even if they call their engines XPDL compatible, are going to throw in enough customizations that it would give you fits trying to write cross-platform XPDL that will run flawlessly on them. </p>
<p>db</p>
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		<title>By: Pinaki</title>
		<link>http://davidkbarker.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/9/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

I am a Pega Developer and now trying to explore the work of Work flows across different Work flow supportive tools and their reusibility in any environment.For that I want to know regarding the XPDL compatibility of Work flow engines of different tools and how we can make the work flow at XPDL level so that they can be accessed across different work flow engines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I am a Pega Developer and now trying to explore the work of Work flows across different Work flow supportive tools and their reusibility in any environment.For that I want to know regarding the XPDL compatibility of Work flow engines of different tools and how we can make the work flow at XPDL level so that they can be accessed across different work flow engines?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David
Be good to see you at the Intalio conference, perhaps even my session on Restful orchestration(?)
Jason ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David<br />
Be good to see you at the Intalio conference, perhaps even my session on Restful orchestration(?)<br />
Jason <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: davidbarker</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidbarker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manuj,

Intalio is a good product and has a good company behind it for support.  They are having a user conference in San Francisco this June, I would recommend attending that as a great place to start out.  Here&#039;s a link to more info on that: https://www.regonline.com/builder/site/Default.aspx?eventid=614576

I&#039;m not sure yet if I&#039;m going to make it down there, but looking at the agenda, it sounds really good.

db</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manuj,</p>
<p>Intalio is a good product and has a good company behind it for support.  They are having a user conference in San Francisco this June, I would recommend attending that as a great place to start out.  Here&#8217;s a link to more info on that: <a href="https://www.regonline.com/builder/site/Default.aspx?eventid=614576" rel="nofollow">https://www.regonline.com/builder/site/Default.aspx?eventid=614576</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure yet if I&#8217;m going to make it down there, but looking at the agenda, it sounds really good.</p>
<p>db</p>
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		<title>By: Manuj</title>
		<link>http://davidkbarker.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/9/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Manuj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

I am a PHP programmer just starting out with a workflow concept. I am new to all these concepts thought I have had a reading on sites like wikipedia etc.

I wanted to ask you one thing that how to get started developing applications quicky.
I m looking at Intalio.

-
Manuj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>I am a PHP programmer just starting out with a workflow concept. I am new to all these concepts thought I have had a reading on sites like wikipedia etc.</p>
<p>I wanted to ask you one thing that how to get started developing applications quicky.<br />
I m looking at Intalio.</p>
<p>-<br />
Manuj</p>
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